0 Comments to “Show & Tell: Ron D "Toronto Part 2" or is it "Empire State of Mind part 2?"”

  1. Simon

    Nov 6th, 2009

    I agree, we have enough talent in this city that artists shouldn’t feel the need to cramp the style of anybody else out there. Also, two anthems about the city? Ron D should just run for mayor. I’m pretty sure he’d win.

  2. Jef

    Nov 6th, 2009

    Yup, a good point about T-dot’s complex with NY (dunno about you, but I see that in our blogging community too). “Empire” remakes for *every* city are kinda inevitable though ala Busta’s “New York Shit” a couple years ago (and there again…an NY-pride joint, hm). I dig both of these tracks. I just hope there’s a posse cut remix in the works. Stuff like http://tr.im/ElCU and of course http://tr.im/ElD9 always make me smile.

    As a sidenote — it seems like most everyone even remotely related to the Remix Project is good peoples; I support their movements.

  3. Jef

    Nov 6th, 2009

    Haha. And now I see my comment next to my profile pic: Yankees cap with a Canadiana t-shirt…

  4. Anupa

    Nov 6th, 2009

    Thanks for posting this Jesse. I’m kind of sick of this city and it’s people turning into NY/LA wannabes. We’ve got our own unique identity—it’s been a pull-factor for many years, so why change it. I for one love the fact that you get a laidback, unpretentious vibe from the city while still getting all of the cultural/social/technological benefits of a major american metropolis.

    That’s why I’m not feeling the song too hard. Ron D comes nice on it (and on Part one) but you’re right about it feeling a little knock-offy (i want to make a compilation of all the copycat tracks out there, I’m certain it would be sick).

    The thing is though, and I wonder if I’m saying it just because I’m from here, but I think Toronto is worthy of an epic love song like “Empire.” It just needs to be a real testimonial instead of a paraphrase.

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  6. Zindzi

    Nov 11th, 2009

    As a non-Torontonian who’s only been here since May, I’ll say this:

    I LOVE TORONTO.

    And as much as I love NYC, and as much as it holds a special place in the hearts of a whole generation OBSESSED with it … Toronto is diff, has its own identity and cultural makeup, and needs to embrace that, rather than aspiring to be 2nd best. Where’s a Toronto anthem with a banging beat that people can groove to? I know the talent to do it exists in the city.

    But I don’t even think its necess a T.O. thing – Montrealers preen when people call it the Paris of North America, Calgarians love their stampeding, Texan, shitkicking persona (and their Stetsons), and Vancouver loves its proximity (cultural and geographical) to the American west coast. It’s a lack of a national identity in general, a result of the history of the country, and of the resistance of the old white Canadian elite to Canada’s new TRUE identity and strength: its burgeoning multiculturalism. The “Canuck” hockey-playing, beer-guzzling identity is cute but sadly interests so few of us non-Canadians. It’s simply just not as widely-marketable of an image.

    These are all things I’ve noticed as a Canadian-but-not-really-Canadian, living on the fringes. U guys have got the people and the resources and the will, trust me. And, well, the rent prices :-)

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