The Walking Dead Interrobang: Vatos (S01E04)
Posted on 24. Nov, 2010 by theashcan in Interrobang, Television
Anupa and Simon sure love television shows but are way too lazy to write proper recaps about them. Compromise? They will be discussing (zombterrobanging?) AMC’s new gore filled zombie series The Walking Deadas a means to flesh(!) out their questions(?) every week. Yea, that was awful, but you knew what you were getting into when you saw that interrobang symbol.
Yay to this week’s pseudo-multiculturalism, but boo to its bizarre story arc. Also, the Crazy Guy digs holes. Keep reading, as we cover plot holes (?), annoying sisters, hotwiring cars and the vato code. Spoilers ahead.
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Anupa: okay, sorry
i had to listen to a Justin Timberlake song first
Simon: an essential building block to every nutritious breakfast!
Anupa: obviously
wait i don’t even remember what happened on the show LOL
Simon: AHAHA
Anupa: let me read the Vulture recap
Simon: okie doke
Anupa: okay i’m ready
So:Â The Opening Scene:
Simon: uh… is that the roof?
oh wait, the fishing
we’re on the ball
Anupa: yeah the fishing
i mean, i don’t blame you for not remembering
since it was so boring
i was getting a piece of apple pie when that was happening
so not into The Boring Sisters storyline
Simon: I was wondering how they salvaged so much makeup during the apocalypse
I also didn’t get their story
so, their dad purposely taught them different ways to fish because they have different personalities?
that doesn’t even make sense
that’s like teaching one child babies come from storks because they think boys are yucky
Anupa: HAHAHA right?
It’s not sweet, it’s pandering and pathetic
I would be insulted
That’s like a dad assuming that because one of his kids is kinda slow, he won’t read him/her bedtime stories: also known as GIVING UP
Simon: I would be like… so which knot is better? WE NEED FISH TO LIVE
it explains why they seem spoiled though, their dad clearly spoiled them
did you get those beats where Mrs. Grimes seems a bit envious that those two caught fish though?
it’s like she’s aware she is a useless character. that was a bit meta. or foreshadow-y.
like, when they offer to teach her kid to fish
Anupa: she basically can’t do anything for her kid except colour with him
Speaking of foreshadowing:
You knew from the beginning why he was digging those holes right?
I mean, was that meant to not be obvious?
Simon: well, I knew it was for bodies
but I wasn’t sure people would actually die
I thought maybe he was just being crazy
and they wanted to talk about the idea of authority
and, you know, your RIGHT to be crazy.
Anupa: I KNOW
WHY DO PRE-APOCALYPSE MORES AND NORMS STILL EXIST?
Aren’t zombies a fucking game changer?
Simon: they totally touch on that later in the episode!
when they meet altruistic Ludacris
Anupa: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
He totally looks like Ludacris, but a Hispanic one.
in America, they have Hispanics. In this show, lovingly referred to as vatos
Everything about this program is a horrendous cliche
Simon: BUT LET’S GO IN ORDER
I was so not buying Merle’s hand
they must have blown their prop budget on zombie makeup
Anupa: Also, did he jump out the window?
Is that what they’re insinuating?
Simon: there was a fire escape outside the window
Anupa: The more we talk about this, the more I realize I don’t care :(
Simon: It’s true, although I really enjoyed the ending
but, you know, we slogged through some snoring to get there
Anupa: Yes
Simon: I like how they were like, OMG he cauterized his stump he’s tough
even though HE SAWED HIS OWN HAND OFF
does he still need to prove he’s tough?
Anupa: Why did Merle’s Brother keep the hand?
Simon: I don’t know, I thought that was hilarious too
Anupa: Was it really just to slap up the kid, WHO HAD A POT LEAF TATTOOED ON HIS NECK?
Simon: I cannot believe Glenn didn’t protest when Merle’s Brother put a dismembered hand in his backpack
Ok so yeah, about that whole storyline with the other group: it was awful
Anupa: That whole thing was so fucking stupid
So they’re tough as shit, but oh okay, just kidding they’re not!
My favourite part of that whole thing was Abuela, because I love old people
I understand the premise of having to be tough because people will try and come fuck with you and steal your shit, but if they’re so “good at heart” why did they have Glenn dangling over the building at first? And they wouldn’t take their friend back, etc.! So mean!
Simon: I think they are intended to be tough to the point they are willing to kill to protect the old people
Anupa: As soon as Abuela walked in, everyone lowered their guns like they weren’t prepared to pop things off two minutes ago
Simon: like, they’re tough but they’re good guys, even though we’re supposed to think they’re bad guys
and the show is like “SURPRISE! Appearances and impressions are relative!”
except I feel like if I were in that situation
I’d be like “OMG OTHER SURVIVORS”
Anupa: Well yes
Because that’s the rational response
Can you explain why Glenn was being held “hostage”?
But then afterward he was just standing there with the rest of those peeps like that didn’t happen?
Simon: yea, like, how come he’s not angry at all
Anupa: Or SURPRISED TO SEE HIS FRIENDS?
Simon: or like “THANKS FOR TRYING TO THROW ME OFF A BUILDING”
“he’s having an asthma attack”
nice to see you too, Glenn
everyone just assumes they will part ways, why don’t they pool resources?
why does everyone gotta be so TRIBAL when society falls apart?
I would have stayed there with them
Anupa: Really?
Simon: a defended brick building with welded doors is safer than a campsite
Anupa: Truth
Simon: also, you’re IN the city so people will find you
who the fuck is looking for survivors in a quarry?
Anupa: I hate the quarry
Simon: why didn’t the idea to join forces not even cross their minds?
Anupa: IT’S CLEARLY A RACIAL THING
Simon: I’m surprised there are still fat people around
I’d be so sure fatties would be the first to go in a zombie apocalpyse
Anupa: Well yes, because running is an issue
Simon: yes
also, the world should be malnourished: the combo of cardio and diet should do wonders for their figures
and re: their friends back at camp, they weren’t like “let’s go back to camp and discuss moving here”
they were like, “have a gun. byes!”
what do you think happened to Merle?
Anupa: He stole the van?
Simon: you think?
Anupa: But if he stole the van, why didn’t he beat them back to camp?
I think with this show, when the characters say something, that’s what it is
So when Rick said “Merle”…I think we’re supposed to believe that he’s right
What bugs me is that if it was so easy to hotwire TWO cars in the previous episode, why didn’t they just do that instead of RUNNING all the way back to camp?
Simon: also, they seemed to get back pretty quickly?
word. this was Glenn’s chance to get a sweet new ride.
also, tangential: but the vatos drove a lowrider
like, REALLY?
Anupa: AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAhHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
straight low-lows
Simon: that final action scene was pretty sweet though
my desire for gore was sated
also tangential, last time they had to hotwire cars and beat it out of town just to survive
this time they RAN OUT OF THE CITY
no probs!
but, anyways, i digress
Anupa: No that is sooo not digressing
The truth of the matter is,
(and, let’s address this before we address what was probably the best scene of the episode)
The truth is that the writing on this show is kind of garbage
I mean, sure we’re nitpicking
But at the same time we’re not
Here’s my only defense of it: this is a show based on a graphic novel
When I frame it like that, a lot more of this makes sense
Because that medium has more license to keep the plot moving a bit
But if that were the case, I wish they would frame this show as a little bit more hyper-real
Simon: Agreed. Although, I have heard this episode deviates from the comic a bit
I am willing to give it leeway however because it is a 6 episode run
so I’m guessing writers were kind of put in a spot not knowing if they’d be renewed and trying to fit story into 6 hours of TV
Anupa: At this point, I feel the zombies are really carrying the show
However, if Crazy Guy (whatever his name is) ends up being actually psychic
That’ll change the game
Then we’ll know we’re dealing with more than just “zombies in the real world!”
Simon: yea, I wasn’t sure what to make of that
I am unaware of the comics so I don’t know of “powers” is an element
but…that would be dumb
it adds an element into a story that is already spread too thin
Anupa: Ahh, we are on opposite sides here
I think, if that happened then i’d be able to look over all the dumb-ass inconsistencies
Simon: if it became “The Walking Dead Heroes”?
because it just totally becomes a comic book at that point, you mean
Anupa: Nah it doesn’t have to be like that
Not everyone has to have a superpower or whatever
Just the addition of something that takes this beyond rookie mistakes
On the other hand, it could just be a fluke dream given the circumstances
Simon: I am surprised there has been so little so far in the story explaining WHY ZOMBIES EXIST
Anupa: Okay, so here are the characters I’m glad are dead: Wifebeater Dad and Annoying Sister
Simon: yes, i could care less about either
also, did they seem incredibly unprepared during this scene?
Anupa: Hahaha YES
Simon: like, last campfire they’re hudled around embers for fear of attracting zombies
this time, they’re all like — we’re at arts camp! tell us stories grandpa! completely not on the lookout
how did they get so complacent?
Anupa: SEE
They’re only complacent for the story to propel itself
Simon: worth noting again: women don’t fight
Anupa: Yup
Simon: but they die
and cry
Anupa: This show needs some tough bitches
Where is Michelle Rodriguez when you need her?
Simon: with the Vatos, duh
so during the scene with the sister
were you not at all sad?
because all I could think was “put a cap in her head before she eats you bitch!”
Anupa: EXACTLY
That’s all I could think too
Simon: I kept waiting for it to happen
Anupa: I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t do it
Because no one on this show seems to be either a) proactive or b) able to put their IRRELEVANT IN ZOMBIE WORLD emotions aside
Why is everyone on this show so emotional?
Simon: it also addresses the “why are people in zombie movies completely unaware of zombie conventions” question
like, this scenario is played out in EVERY zombie story
always, always just shoot the bitch
she’s a zombie!
what do you think they do next? only two eps remaining
Anupa: I think they move
And I think they make use of the holes that Crazy Guy dug
I think they’ll probably forget about Merle and/or run into him
And hopefully we hear from Black Dad and Son
Simon: I forsee Merle being the season finale cliffhanger
I’d laugh if the black dad and son took Merle in like they took Rick in and they’re all buddy buddy at the end, hahaha
Hopefully they run into a gang of ruthless females, undefined by cultural stereotypes
Anupa: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Simon: I think we’re done, hahaha




Steph
Nov 25th, 2010
Yea i didnt dig this 4th episode there wasnt enough zombies in it until the end. Throughout the whole fishing scene with the sisters i was waiting for a underwater zombie to reach up and grab one of them or something with under water shots of hundreds of zombies marching towards the camp LOTR styles but no. nada.
The psychic guy to me came across as a pedophile for some reason, probably the way he kept eyeing the children. And i felt bad for glen because he didnt even want to go to the city and i expected them to fling the hand to distract the zombies or something which also never happened. And why didnt the older sister just give the younger sister the necklace at the campfire? She might still be alive cuz she wouldnt have gone to pee right away. i like that boondock saints brother but i dont really know why hahaha. my fav episode was still the one with the black father and son, i was like “WAAAALT!”
Dust
Nov 29th, 2010
1. Re: Living with Vatos. The old folks home is not a nice place to be. Firstly, more than half the population is about to die/undie due to old age. That’s an epidemic waiting to happen. They should probably lock the old folks in their rooms.
2. Re: Sisters. Gonna have to double check, but I think in the book, older sister dies, younger sister lives and hooks up with old RV dude. I think the censors had a problem with that potentially going on TV. Also, sister 1 ‘finishes’ sister 2 with bullet in the head. Also very surprised (dissapointed) they didn’t get into that at all. Hopefully start of next ep.
3. Please don’t let psychic guy be psychic. I’d like to think that being surrounded by walking dead folks results in dreams about graves…
4. Re: Amazons. Wait for it.
-d
Jef
Nov 29th, 2010
Amazons!
Simon
Nov 29th, 2010
@dust: I don’t know what you’re really talking about, but that shit sounds spoilery.
Dust
Dec 3rd, 2010
tried not to spoil.
1. hypothetical scenario, dunno if old folks home actually gets consumed by old folks.
2. ok, oops, but who knows if the show will go there.
4. i’m exaggerating a bit. alls i’m saying is that male or female, this show is about surviving. being weak and dependent on someone else to defend you is not a good strategy for survival. you learn how to kill zombies or zombies kill you.
Simon
Dec 4th, 2010
@dust: Def agree on point 4. I think we’ve repeatedly decried the female characters in this show. They’re totally zombie bait.